Legislature(2023 - 2024)GRUENBERG 120

04/18/2023 03:00 PM House STATE AFFAIRS

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03:04:20 PM Start
03:05:06 PM Confirmation Hearing(s):|| State Board of Parole|| Department of Corrections, Commissioner
03:59:31 PM HB61
04:18:21 PM HB116
04:59:51 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
*+ HB 116 RESTORATIVE JUSTICE ACCT APPROPRIATIONS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
+= HB 61 LIMITATIONS ON FIREARMS RESTRICTIONS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 61(STA) Out of Committee
+ Consideration of Governor’s Appointees: TELECONFERENCED
Department of Corrections - Commissioner Jen
Winkelman; State Board of Parole - Sarah Possenti
-- Public Testimony --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
          HB  61-LIMITATIONS ON FIREARMS RESTRICTIONS                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:59:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SHAW  announced that  the next order  of business  would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL NO.  61, "An Act relating to  restrictions on firearms                                                               
and other weapons."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SHAW  stated   that  the  committee  would   take  up  the                                                               
consideration of amendments to HB 61.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:00:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:01:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY  moved  to  adopt Amendment  1  to  HB  61,                                                               
labeled 33-LS0333\A.4, Radford, 4/17/23, which read:                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 9, following "to":                                                                                            
          Insert "(1)"                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 12, following "law":                                                                                          
          Insert ";                                                                                                             
               (2)  an order, proclamation, regulation,                                                                         
     ordinance, or policy                                                                                                       
               (A)  forbidding the possession of a firearm,                                                                     
      a firearm accessory, ammunition, or other weapon for                                                                      
     personal use at an emergency shelter; or                                                                                   
               (B)  ordering the seizure or confiscation of                                                                     
      a firearm, a firearm accessory, ammunition, or other                                                                      
       weapon for personal use that a person possesses or                                                                       
     attempts to possess at an emergency shelter"                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SHAW objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:01:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY  explained  that amendment  1  would  allow                                                               
authorities to  restrict the possession of  firearms in emergency                                                               
shelters   during   a   disaster  declaration,   thus   providing                                                               
authorities with the flexibility  to assess situations and retain                                                               
order and safety in communal living spaces.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:02:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CARPENTER   objected  to  the  motion   to  adopt                                                               
Amendment 1.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was  taken.  Representatives Armstrong and Story                                                               
voted in  favor of  Amendment 1.   Representatives  Carpenter, C.                                                               
Johnson, Allard, Wright,  and Shaw voted against  it.  Therefore,                                                               
Amendment 1 failed by a vote of 2-5.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:03:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease from.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:04:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY  moved  to  adopt Amendment  2  to  HB  61,                                                               
labeled 33-LS0333\A.3, Radford, 4/17/23, which read:                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, lines 13 - 25:                                                                                                     
          Delete all material.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE C. JOHNSON objected.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ALLARD objected.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:04:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY explained that  Amendment 2 would delete the                                                               
language on page  2, lines 13-25, allowing people  to bring civil                                                               
action  against a  government  agency or  law  enforcement.   She                                                               
opined  that the  language  on page  2,  lines 13-25,  encouraged                                                               
people  to   sue  the  state  government   without  resulting  in                                                               
injunctive relief.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:05:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  C. JOHNSON  asked the  bill sponsor  to opine  on                                                               
Amendment 2.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:05:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CATHY  TILTON,  Alaska State  Legislature,  prime                                                               
sponsor  of  HB 61,  referenced  a  memo from  Legislative  Legal                                                               
Services [included in the committee  packet], which addressed the                                                               
concern  about  injunctive relief  versus  treble  damages.   She                                                               
deferred to her staff, Mr. St. Clair.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:06:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
STEVE  ST.  CLAIR,  Staff, Representative  Cathy  Tilton,  Alaska                                                               
State  Legislature, on  behalf  of  Representative Tilton,  prime                                                               
sponsor, stated that  this was an existing practice  in state and                                                               
federal law.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:06:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY, referencing  the  legal  memo, shared  her                                                               
understanding  that treble  damages were  authorized in  fourteen                                                               
different  statutes, whereas  injunctive relief  appeared in  the                                                               
Alaska Statutes  46 times.   She requested a  representative from                                                               
Legislative  Legal Services  to  answer the  question of  whether                                                               
injunctive relief was more appropriate.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SHAW  said no  one  from  Legislative Legal  Services  was                                                               
online.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:07:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE C.  JOHNSON maintained his objection  to Amendment                                                               
2.                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:07:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was  taken.  Representatives Armstrong and Story                                                               
voted  in   favor  of  Amendment  2.     Representatives  Wright,                                                               
Carpenter,  C.  Johnson,  Allard,  and  Shaw  voted  against  it.                                                               
Therefore, Amendment 2 failed by a vote of 2-5.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:08:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WRIGHT  moved to  adopt  Amendment  3 to  HB  61,                                                               
labeled 33-LS0333\A.1, Radford, 4/13/23, which read:                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 8, following "firearm,":                                                                                      
          Insert "a firearm part,"                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 10, following "firearm,":                                                                                     
          Insert "a firearm part,"                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 13, following "firearms,":                                                                                    
          Insert "firearm parts,"                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 2, following "firearms,":                                                                                     
          Insert "firearm parts,"                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 9, following "firearm,":                                                                                      
          Insert "a firearm part,"                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 11, following "firearm,":                                                                                     
          Insert "a firearm part,"                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 15, following "firearm,":                                                                                     
          Insert "a firearm part,"                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, line 1, following "illumination":                                                                                  
          Insert ";                                                                                                             
               (3)  "firearm part" means a component of a                                                                       
      firearm that is essential to the basic function of a                                                                      
      firearm, including a component of an action or lock,                                                                      
     the stock, and the barrel"                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CARPENTER objected.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:08:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WRIGHT explained  that Amendment  3 would  insert                                                               
"firearm  part" and  the  associated  definition to  HB  61.   He                                                               
explained  that  firearm  parts  were  required  for  the  proper                                                               
function of a firearm.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  C. JOHNSON  asked  whether the  bill sponsor  was                                                               
supportive of Amendment 3.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  TILTON answered  yes, she  was supportive  of the                                                               
proposed  amendment,   as  firearm   parts  were   necessary  for                                                               
subsistence hunting as a well as self-protection.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE C. JOHNSON removed his  objection.  There being no                                                               
further objection, Amendment 3 was adopted.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:09:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WRIGHT moved  to report HB 61, as  amended, out of                                                               
committee  with individual  recommendations and  the accompanying                                                               
fiscal notes.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY objected.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:10:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:10:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY spoke  to her  objection, opining  that law                                                               
enforcement needed to  be able to restrict  firearm possession in                                                               
certain situations, such as emergency shelters.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:11:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:11:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll call  vote was taken.   Representatives Wright, Carpenter,                                                               
C.  Johnson,  Allard, and  Shaw  voted  in  favor  of HB  61,  as                                                               
amended.   Representatives Story and Armstrong  voted against it.                                                               
Therefore,  CSHB 61(STA)  was  reported out  of  the House  State                                                               
Affairs Standing Committee by a vote of 5-2.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:12:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:12:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SHAW  noted that Legislative Legal  Services was authorized                                                               
to make  any necessary technical  and conforming changes  to CSHB
61(STA).                                                                                                                        

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
Jennifer Winkelman Resume_Redacted.pdf HSTA 4/18/2023 3:00:00 PM
Confirmation: Winkelman, Jennifer - Dept of Corrections Commissioner
3.1.23 Sarah Possenti Parole Resume_Redacted.pdf HSTA 4/18/2023 3:00:00 PM
Confirmation: Possenti, Sarah -- State Parole Board
HB 61 - Emailed Public Comment - As of 04-17 - Oppose.pdf HSTA 4/18/2023 3:00:00 PM
HB 61
HB 61 - Emailed Public Comment - As of 04-17 - Support.pdf HSTA 4/18/2023 3:00:00 PM
HB 61
HB 116 Sponsor Statement v.1.pdf HSTA 4/18/2023 3:00:00 PM
HB 116
HB 116 Sectional Analysis V.1.pdf HSTA 4/18/2023 3:00:00 PM
HB 116
HB 116A.PDF HSTA 4/18/2023 3:00:00 PM
HB 116
HB 116 Supporting Document - PPT.pdf HSTA 4/18/2023 3:00:00 PM
HB 116
HB 116 - Fiscal Note - DPS - 19,334.3.pdf HSTA 4/18/2023 3:00:00 PM
HB 116
HB 116 - Fiscal Note - DOC - 0.0 (Fund Change).pdf HSTA 4/18/2023 3:00:00 PM
HB 116
HB 61 - Amendments - HSTA - Amendment 2 - 33-LS0333-A.3.pdf HSTA 4/18/2023 3:00:00 PM
HB 61
HB 61 - Amendments - HSTA - Amendment 1 - 33-LS0333-A.4.pdf HSTA 4/18/2023 3:00:00 PM
HB 61
HB 61 - Amendments - HSTA - Amendment 3 - 33-LS0333-A.1.pdf HSTA 4/18/2023 3:00:00 PM
HB 61